Ave Maria, Gee It’s Good to See Ya

Laurie and Debbie say:

Tom Monaghan, founder of Domino’s Pizza, is single-handedly building a “Catholic town” in Florida.

“Ave Maria’s pharmacies will not be allowed to sell condoms or birth control pills. The town’s cable television network will carry no X-rated channels. …” The town will be centered around a new Catholic University. Jeb Bush attended the university’s groundbreaking ceremony.

Frankly, my dear, we’d rather live there than in South Dakota these days. We are both passionately pro-choice, and neither of us is or has ever been a Catholic. But think about it. A town that abided by Catholic church doctrine would:

Not allow the death penalty
Teach evolution in the schools without controversy or wishy-washiness
Provide sanctuary (including for illegal immigrants)
Commit to wages large enough to support a family for every worker (don’t you wonder how Monaghan made the money to build a whole town?)
Outlaw usury (yes, this means the credit card companies) and extreme corporate profits (Disney’s going to love that one)
Provide universal access to health care

And finally, if the choice for ultimate authority is George Bush and his gang of thugs or Pope Benedict, the pope wins hands down.

Is this really something Jeb Bush wants his core constituency to see him supporting?

There are all kinds of reasons why we believe Ave Marie, FL, is a really bad idea, starting with the Bill of Rights and the Constitution (including separation of church and state), and continuing through other right-to-die issues, before you even get to condoms and pornography.

At the same time, it’s a much more interesting really bad idea than the current powermongers have been offering us.

Let’s just hope the residents of Ave Maria can live in peace, and aren’t attacked by marauding bands of Catholic-hating, death-penalty supporting, evolution-despising American citizens.

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7 thoughts on “Ave Maria, Gee It’s Good to See Ya

  1. H’mmm.

    I don’t have too much of a problem with what Monaghan’s doing here — it’s better than when he used to contribute heavily to “Operation Rescue,” at least; and nobody is going to be forced to go live in Ave Maria. There’s a related discussion (to which Debbie briefly contributed) going on over on my livejournal, at
    http://sturgeonslawyer.livejournal.com/133415.html — this strikes me as exactly the kind of community of people living by voluntarily-agreed-upon rules under discussion there. Not to my taste (even as a Catholic), but …

    And, yes, I know the flaw: parents bringing up children. The children aren’t volunteers for the rules. But children are never volunteers for their parents rules and values, and always have to live with them.

    But you know what? I’ll bet Monaghan isn’t going to be consistent with the other aspects of Catholic doctrine you mention. Grrrr. I despise hypocrisy, even in myself…

  2. I think his lawyers have pulled him in a bit. He was on Good Morning America with one of them this morning. He’s building a Catholic University, not a town, although he has hopes for the one growing up around the university. Pharmacies will be requested, but not forbidden, etc.. Yep, definitely lawyers have entered the town to be.

  3. Has anybody read Amy Tan’s THE OPPOSITE OF FATE? It’s nonfiction, sort of autobiographical. This is probably one of the richest reading experiences I’ve had in a long, long time. There are a lot of stories around food.

    There’s one in particular that got to me. Amy Tan’s parents are Chinese Christians who came to America. When she was a young teen she had a crush on their minister’s son, a white boy. Her mother invites the family over for Christmas dinner. Amy was rather appalled at the idea. She was ashamed of her family’s customs and cuisine and worried terribly how it would all appear to this nice white family. Without going into detail, she spent a lot of time at this very elaborate, and very Chinese dinner cringing inside.

    Anyway, after dinner her mother says to her, “You want be same like American girls on the outside.” And her mother gave her a mini skirt as a gift, but then said, “But inside you must always be Chinese. You must be proud you different. You only shame is be ashame,”

    Years later, remembering, she realized that all of the dishes her mother had prepared for this elaborate dinner had been her, Amy’s, favorites. Well, anyway, it brought me to tears.

    And totally off subject, she also writes about the first time she saw the Cliff Notes version of her book. I love this book!

  4. Here’s a novel idea for the ACLU and anyone else who opposes the town of Ave Maria …

    DON’T MOVE THERE – DON’T VISIT THERE – DON’T EVEN LOOK IT UP ON THE MAP! And keep your nose out of the business of the citizens who CHOOSE to live there.

  5. I think Ave Maria is a fine idea, so long as no-one is forced to live there.

    Heck, I’m sorry the neo-Nazis lost their little compound in Idaho. I would have liked it if they had started a town there where they could all happily inbreed in blissful purity.

    I’m all in favor of these people going off to their little reservations and leaving THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA alone!

  6. Betty,

    I’ll pick it up.

    The story in your comments reminds me of the ways that Jewish girls were made ashamed of “Jewish things” about their families when I was growing up. Since I grew up in NYC it wasn’t as much about what you ate. It was more about how you behaved at the table.

    More about this later.

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