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		<title>By: maham</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, let&#039;s see, I&#039;m a 14 year old Pakistani girl and I only have 40 bratz dolls till now. I never ever dressed like them (nor I ever will.
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Ever seen this bratz doll? She&#039;s fully covered and looks like a Pakistani girl. Just because a doll dresses like that, it doesnt mean little girls will dress like this too.</description>
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Ever seen this bratz doll? She&#8217;s fully covered and looks like a Pakistani girl. Just because a doll dresses like that, it doesnt mean little girls will dress like this too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumb Adult</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dumb Adult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF, you got us all beat.  You&#039;re soooooo intelligent.  Your logic and grammar are proof positive the rest of us are just plain stupid.

Too bad I was born an adult and never had the benefit of child-like insight.

Now, given the fact that I&#039;ve been exposed for being a stupid adult, I&#039;ll give in and won&#039;t pretend to have answers.  I&#039;ll just ask some questions.

1)  Say I have a serious health concern--or heck, just want to get my teeth cleaned.  Would I rather be worked on by a 15 year old or a 40 year old?  

2)  I want to watch a movie.  When I go to the local video store, will I find more movies directed by 40 somethings or teens?  

3)  I&#039;m a world leader and our nation has a big problem.  Do I call a 50 year old or a 20 year old to work on a solution?

4) I want to go to a museum to look at art.  Do I want to see art by a 5 year old or a 36 year old?

Now to reality...

I guess I&#039;m speaking to the stupid adults now.

Honestly, like all but one contributor to Laurie and Debbie&#039;s blog, I too am greatly disturbed by the proliferation of Bratz dolls and the seemingly related changes to Barbie.

Besides the fact that Bratz are hypersexualized dolls dressed for a career as a pole dancer, one more telling argument against them is to see just how illiterate and illogical their one supporter (on this blog) is.  Yes, she&#039;s just 14, but she&#039;s only 4 years away from being a legal voting adult and getting very close to sexual maturity.  How does she dress?  

Does how a teen female dresses impact how she is approached and treated by teen males?

Do teens make judgments on one another based on dress?  Do adults make judgments on one another based on dress?

Is teen pregnancy a problem in the US?

Again, I don&#039;t have the answers, but these questions do come to mind.

What does the choice of online moniker say about oneself?  I could have my acronyms mixed up--I am blonde like Barbie--but when I see the initials WTF, I think &quot;What the f---.&quot;  

How important are reading, writing and critical thinking skills?  If my goal is to be a real live incarnation of a Bratz doll, a la Britney Spears or Paris Hilton, are those important skills to have?

Just so no one gets the idea I&#039;m a dowdy, stay-at-home, book worm, I was in a competitive sorority at a competitive college--and yes, looks were valued.  And yes, we had one sister who was the living incarnation of Barbie!  But education was equally stressed.  Our pledge class had future scientists, teachers, doctors, accountants and artists.

I don&#039;t see that in the Bratz value system.  Barbie&#039;s marketing copy, god love her, at least pretends to have an interest in a self-supporting and fulfilling career.

I also worked for a record label and toured with Lollapalooza--no kidding.  But I don&#039;t want my daughter playing with Bratz dolls.

Are Britney Spears and Paris Hilton happy people?  Where will Britney and Paris be at age 40?  What contributions does each make to the world?  Who do they care about?  Who cares about them?  Other than paid staff, who takes care of them when they are sick?  What happens after Paris Hilton has bought everything she ever wanted?  

WTF - since you are sooooooo smart, then surely you are up to taking one of the following imagination challenges!  They would be so easy for your brainy head.

1) Imagine you won the lotto.  Who doesn&#039;t think that is a fun little daydream?  You now have more money than Donald Trump.  What would you do with the money?  Fast forward 5 years.  What would your life be like?  In 5 years, would you have a lot more or a lot less money than you started with?   What would you do after you&#039;d done everything you wanted and bought everything you wanted?

2) Imagine you have died (I know tough to do at 14--but you are sooo smart and you yourself stated that Bratz dolls contributed to your life by stimulating your imagination--so imagine this).  So you&#039;ve died and you are hovering over a crowd of people at your wake/funeral/memorial service.  What would you want people to say about you? 

So I&#039;m still a stupid adult.  The following sites are sure to have much smarter (and consequently probably younger) folks than me providing fodder to entertain you.

The &quot;Satisfaction With Life&quot; index on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisfaction_with_Life_Index

Oh, did you notice where the US is on that chart?  What puts the top countries on top?  Maybe the following article will shed some light.  Hint: The &quot;C word&quot; could have something to do with it.

A scholarly article on happiness from 4 different view points:  

http://www1.umn.edu/umnnews/Feature_Stories/In_search_of_happiness.html

One last request--for you dumb adults, if you haven&#039;t seen the movie Parenthood featuring Steve Martin, you have to watch it.  Favorite quote is:

&quot;You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they&#039;ll let any #$^&amp;*%$ be a father.&quot;

Being a parent is the most interesting, fun and important job I&#039;ll ever have.  Don&#039;t want to f---- it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF, you got us all beat.  You&#8217;re soooooo intelligent.  Your logic and grammar are proof positive the rest of us are just plain stupid.</p>
<p>Too bad I was born an adult and never had the benefit of child-like insight.</p>
<p>Now, given the fact that I&#8217;ve been exposed for being a stupid adult, I&#8217;ll give in and won&#8217;t pretend to have answers.  I&#8217;ll just ask some questions.</p>
<p>1)  Say I have a serious health concern&#8211;or heck, just want to get my teeth cleaned.  Would I rather be worked on by a 15 year old or a 40 year old?  </p>
<p>2)  I want to watch a movie.  When I go to the local video store, will I find more movies directed by 40 somethings or teens?  </p>
<p>3)  I&#8217;m a world leader and our nation has a big problem.  Do I call a 50 year old or a 20 year old to work on a solution?</p>
<p>4) I want to go to a museum to look at art.  Do I want to see art by a 5 year old or a 36 year old?</p>
<p>Now to reality&#8230;</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m speaking to the stupid adults now.</p>
<p>Honestly, like all but one contributor to Laurie and Debbie&#8217;s blog, I too am greatly disturbed by the proliferation of Bratz dolls and the seemingly related changes to Barbie.</p>
<p>Besides the fact that Bratz are hypersexualized dolls dressed for a career as a pole dancer, one more telling argument against them is to see just how illiterate and illogical their one supporter (on this blog) is.  Yes, she&#8217;s just 14, but she&#8217;s only 4 years away from being a legal voting adult and getting very close to sexual maturity.  How does she dress?  </p>
<p>Does how a teen female dresses impact how she is approached and treated by teen males?</p>
<p>Do teens make judgments on one another based on dress?  Do adults make judgments on one another based on dress?</p>
<p>Is teen pregnancy a problem in the US?</p>
<p>Again, I don&#8217;t have the answers, but these questions do come to mind.</p>
<p>What does the choice of online moniker say about oneself?  I could have my acronyms mixed up&#8211;I am blonde like Barbie&#8211;but when I see the initials WTF, I think &#8220;What the f&#8212;.&#8221;  </p>
<p>How important are reading, writing and critical thinking skills?  If my goal is to be a real live incarnation of a Bratz doll, a la Britney Spears or Paris Hilton, are those important skills to have?</p>
<p>Just so no one gets the idea I&#8217;m a dowdy, stay-at-home, book worm, I was in a competitive sorority at a competitive college&#8211;and yes, looks were valued.  And yes, we had one sister who was the living incarnation of Barbie!  But education was equally stressed.  Our pledge class had future scientists, teachers, doctors, accountants and artists.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that in the Bratz value system.  Barbie&#8217;s marketing copy, god love her, at least pretends to have an interest in a self-supporting and fulfilling career.</p>
<p>I also worked for a record label and toured with Lollapalooza&#8211;no kidding.  But I don&#8217;t want my daughter playing with Bratz dolls.</p>
<p>Are Britney Spears and Paris Hilton happy people?  Where will Britney and Paris be at age 40?  What contributions does each make to the world?  Who do they care about?  Who cares about them?  Other than paid staff, who takes care of them when they are sick?  What happens after Paris Hilton has bought everything she ever wanted?  </p>
<p>WTF &#8211; since you are sooooooo smart, then surely you are up to taking one of the following imagination challenges!  They would be so easy for your brainy head.</p>
<p>1) Imagine you won the lotto.  Who doesn&#8217;t think that is a fun little daydream?  You now have more money than Donald Trump.  What would you do with the money?  Fast forward 5 years.  What would your life be like?  In 5 years, would you have a lot more or a lot less money than you started with?   What would you do after you&#8217;d done everything you wanted and bought everything you wanted?</p>
<p>2) Imagine you have died (I know tough to do at 14&#8211;but you are sooo smart and you yourself stated that Bratz dolls contributed to your life by stimulating your imagination&#8211;so imagine this).  So you&#8217;ve died and you are hovering over a crowd of people at your wake/funeral/memorial service.  What would you want people to say about you? </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m still a stupid adult.  The following sites are sure to have much smarter (and consequently probably younger) folks than me providing fodder to entertain you.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Satisfaction With Life&#8221; index on Wikipedia.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisfaction_with_Life_Index" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisfaction_with_Life_Index</a></p>
<p>Oh, did you notice where the US is on that chart?  What puts the top countries on top?  Maybe the following article will shed some light.  Hint: The &#8220;C word&#8221; could have something to do with it.</p>
<p>A scholarly article on happiness from 4 different view points:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www1.umn.edu/umnnews/Feature_Stories/In_search_of_happiness.html" rel="nofollow">http://www1.umn.edu/umnnews/Feature_Stories/In_search_of_happiness.html</a></p>
<p>One last request&#8211;for you dumb adults, if you haven&#8217;t seen the movie Parenthood featuring Steve Martin, you have to watch it.  Favorite quote is:</p>
<p>&#8220;You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car &#8211; hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they&#8217;ll let any #$^&amp;*%$ be a father.&#8221;</p>
<p>Being a parent is the most interesting, fun and important job I&#8217;ll ever have.  Don&#8217;t want to f&#8212;- it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Pinky</title>
		<link>http://laurietobyedison.com/discuss/?p=327#comment-63765</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an avid Barbie collector even to this day, I am literally sick and enraged by the changed they have made to the Barbie dolls because of Bratz taking over the market.  Has anyone else noticed how fricking huge her head has gotten?  Barbie, already disporportioned enough, not suddenly has a 3x bigger head than she did before.

I went to Mattel&#039;s customer service page to complain about this change of head size, but found that you have to call them up to send any feedback, you can&#039;t just write an angry email.

As for the Bratz - I find them jut as sickening.  They have no noses, they wear tight clothes, they have too-obviously fake lips, and, over all, are ultimately slutty.

Why they&#039;re popular at all escapes me, but maybe that&#039;s just because I&#039;m a bit biased, what with Barbie at least being a foot tall and not a short, chubby prostitute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an avid Barbie collector even to this day, I am literally sick and enraged by the changed they have made to the Barbie dolls because of Bratz taking over the market.  Has anyone else noticed how fricking huge her head has gotten?  Barbie, already disporportioned enough, not suddenly has a 3x bigger head than she did before.</p>
<p>I went to Mattel&#8217;s customer service page to complain about this change of head size, but found that you have to call them up to send any feedback, you can&#8217;t just write an angry email.</p>
<p>As for the Bratz &#8211; I find them jut as sickening.  They have no noses, they wear tight clothes, they have too-obviously fake lips, and, over all, are ultimately slutty.</p>
<p>Why they&#8217;re popular at all escapes me, but maybe that&#8217;s just because I&#8217;m a bit biased, what with Barbie at least being a foot tall and not a short, chubby prostitute.</p>
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		<title>By: WTF 2</title>
		<link>http://laurietobyedison.com/discuss/?p=327#comment-52717</link>
		<dc:creator>WTF 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Is Wrong With You People!

I  M  A  G  I  N  A  T  I  O  N</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Is Wrong With You People!</p>
<p>I  M  A  G  I  N  A  T  I  O  N</p>
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		<title>By: WTF</title>
		<link>http://laurietobyedison.com/discuss/?p=327#comment-52716</link>
		<dc:creator>WTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Have No Idea What The Hell You Are All Moaning About! I Use To Play With Bratz, I Had About 56 Between Me And My Younger Sister. Little Girls Don&#039;t Understand That The Dolls Are Showing Too Much Skin Or Are Have To Much Make-Up On Or Whatever! They Just Think Its A Doll And Its Fun! Im 14 Now So I Think I Know What Im Talking About! All You People Are Just Adults And Are Guessing What Younger People Think But Your Not A Little Girl! So You Dont Know....I Loved Playing With My Dolls. Dressing Them, Doing Their Hair, Pretending They Are At School, Work, Friends Houses Or Shopping Or Whatever. Its Good For Thier Imagination.

E*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Have No Idea What The Hell You Are All Moaning About! I Use To Play With Bratz, I Had About 56 Between Me And My Younger Sister. Little Girls Don&#8217;t Understand That The Dolls Are Showing Too Much Skin Or Are Have To Much Make-Up On Or Whatever! They Just Think Its A Doll And Its Fun! Im 14 Now So I Think I Know What Im Talking About! All You People Are Just Adults And Are Guessing What Younger People Think But Your Not A Little Girl! So You Dont Know&#8230;.I Loved Playing With My Dolls. Dressing Them, Doing Their Hair, Pretending They Are At School, Work, Friends Houses Or Shopping Or Whatever. Its Good For Thier Imagination.</p>
<p>E*</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Murdock</title>
		<link>http://laurietobyedison.com/discuss/?p=327#comment-34982</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran Murdock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 14:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a crush on a girl at school and i dont know what to do so what should i do?</description>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hannah,

I think you&#039;re right about the dolls and gender attitudes toward toys getting even worse.  They do teach very bad lessons.

And fortunately there are many girls like you were,  who use Barbie&#039;s for their own stories.

Good luck to both of with your writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hannah,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right about the dolls and gender attitudes toward toys getting even worse.  They do teach very bad lessons.</p>
<p>And fortunately there are many girls like you were,  who use Barbie&#8217;s for their own stories.</p>
<p>Good luck to both of with your writing!</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://laurietobyedison.com/discuss/?p=327#comment-27315</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed Barbies have become more stereotypical, along with other girl toys. Mainly, they&#039;re about being a princess, fairy, marmaid, and other &quot;girly like&quot; things. When I was growing up, I was into both &quot;girl like&quot; and &quot;boy like&quot; toys. But the toys they&#039;re selling suggest only one gender can play with them. If you&#039;ve seen the &quot;spy gear&quot;, the picture on the front is usually a boy. The only time there is a girl is if the toy has flowers or hearts or pink on it. Also, at McDonalds, they have &quot;boy toys&quot; or &quot;girl toys&quot;. They asume all girls like dolls and all boys like Transformers or cars or whatever. my little sister(10) always asks for the boy toy because they are usually &quot;more fun&quot;. Bratz and Barbies are both disproportional, and teach girls to wear makeup, wear revealing clothes, and be underweight. I have also noticed how in everyday life, things are spelled incorrectly on purpose, such as: Text messaging, tv shows, Bratz, and more. Also, Hilary Duff advertizes for Barbie, teaching girls to spend all their money on clothing and to be spoiled brats. When I was younger, I played with Barbies all the time, mainly because Iiked coming up with stories. So now, I write the stories and my little sister does the same(she even got published in a magazine when she was 7)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed Barbies have become more stereotypical, along with other girl toys. Mainly, they&#8217;re about being a princess, fairy, marmaid, and other &#8220;girly like&#8221; things. When I was growing up, I was into both &#8220;girl like&#8221; and &#8220;boy like&#8221; toys. But the toys they&#8217;re selling suggest only one gender can play with them. If you&#8217;ve seen the &#8220;spy gear&#8221;, the picture on the front is usually a boy. The only time there is a girl is if the toy has flowers or hearts or pink on it. Also, at McDonalds, they have &#8220;boy toys&#8221; or &#8220;girl toys&#8221;. They asume all girls like dolls and all boys like Transformers or cars or whatever. my little sister(10) always asks for the boy toy because they are usually &#8220;more fun&#8221;. Bratz and Barbies are both disproportional, and teach girls to wear makeup, wear revealing clothes, and be underweight. I have also noticed how in everyday life, things are spelled incorrectly on purpose, such as: Text messaging, tv shows, Bratz, and more. Also, Hilary Duff advertizes for Barbie, teaching girls to spend all their money on clothing and to be spoiled brats. When I was younger, I played with Barbies all the time, mainly because Iiked coming up with stories. So now, I write the stories and my little sister does the same(she even got published in a magazine when she was 7)</p>
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		<title>By: Ulrika</title>
		<link>http://laurietobyedison.com/discuss/?p=327#comment-18586</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulrika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 19:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw two dolls among the Bratz Babies that were either intended to be (big-eyed, big-lashed) males or the Bratz version of dykes.  (It&#039;s hard to tell which is intended, I admit, but the much narrower lips must betoken something.)

Likewise, the darkest-skinned dolls I was seeing all had brown or hazel eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw two dolls among the Bratz Babies that were either intended to be (big-eyed, big-lashed) males or the Bratz version of dykes.  (It&#8217;s hard to tell which is intended, I admit, but the much narrower lips must betoken something.)</p>
<p>Likewise, the darkest-skinned dolls I was seeing all had brown or hazel eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: janet lafler</title>
		<link>http://laurietobyedison.com/discuss/?p=327#comment-17961</link>
		<dc:creator>janet lafler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The December 5th New Yorker has an interesting article about the development and marketing of the Bratz dolls. Available here:

http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2006/little_hotties_4487</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The December 5th New Yorker has an interesting article about the development and marketing of the Bratz dolls. Available here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2006/little_hotties_4487" rel="nofollow">http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2006/little_hotties_4487</a></p>
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