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		<title>By: Janet Lafler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Lafler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late as usual, I just wanted to note a couple of things. One is the same issue that Vicki and Lisa both pointed out, and that I don&#039;t think you&#039;ve addressed: that this woman&#039;s personal choice didn&#039;t just affect her, but also her daughter. These choices don&#039;t get made in a vacuum, even when the affect on another person isn&#039;t quite as overt.

The other point is that I think there&#039;s a crucial but often overlooked distinction between respecting or supporting a person and respecting or supporting that person&#039;s beliefs or choices. I have no problem at all with the idea that I can find fault with the specific choice a person has made and still treat that person with respect. I feel this way about people who have, for example, religious beliefs that I don&#039;t respect, approve, or support. As I get older, I find that I care less about what people think than about how they behave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late as usual, I just wanted to note a couple of things. One is the same issue that Vicki and Lisa both pointed out, and that I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve addressed: that this woman&#8217;s personal choice didn&#8217;t just affect her, but also her daughter. These choices don&#8217;t get made in a vacuum, even when the affect on another person isn&#8217;t quite as overt.</p>
<p>The other point is that I think there&#8217;s a crucial but often overlooked distinction between respecting or supporting a person and respecting or supporting that person&#8217;s beliefs or choices. I have no problem at all with the idea that I can find fault with the specific choice a person has made and still treat that person with respect. I feel this way about people who have, for example, religious beliefs that I don&#8217;t respect, approve, or support. As I get older, I find that I care less about what people think than about how they behave.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://laurietobyedison.com/discuss/?p=1285&#038;cpage=1#comment-149315</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good friend of mine had WLS a couple years ago and is now an advocate for it and has formed a support group for others who&#039;ve had WLS or are contemplating it.  She&#039;s even set up a t-shirt store with shirts lauding WLS.  I have grave concerns about WLS and disagree with it fundamentally, but I absolutely support my friend&#039;s informed choice to have it.  She researched the issue for more than a year before she decided to go through with it and then chose a procedure she felt to be safest for her.  It&#039;s not the WLS procedure itself I support; it&#039;s her bodily autonomy to make that decision for herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good friend of mine had WLS a couple years ago and is now an advocate for it and has formed a support group for others who&#8217;ve had WLS or are contemplating it.  She&#8217;s even set up a t-shirt store with shirts lauding WLS.  I have grave concerns about WLS and disagree with it fundamentally, but I absolutely support my friend&#8217;s informed choice to have it.  She researched the issue for more than a year before she decided to go through with it and then chose a procedure she felt to be safest for her.  It&#8217;s not the WLS procedure itself I support; it&#8217;s her bodily autonomy to make that decision for herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help thinking that there&#039;s a major difference between &quot;I want to look young and conventionally pretty&quot; (which is a separate constellation of issues) or even &quot;I want to look like $celebrity&quot; and a woman making herself look like her daughter. 

It&#039;s possible that her daughter is enthusiastically supportive, but it&#039;s also possible that she&#039;s feeling pressured not to object, or not to make those objections about herself and her identity rather than her worry about her mother&#039;s safety during surgery. Twenty-nine is old enough that yes, she can make her own choices too, but the &quot;guess how old we are&quot; thing seems a little too much like using her daughter as a prop for herself. There&#039;s nothing new in parents doing that, I know; maybe it&#039;s the physicality of this one that&#039;s the difference. Though it might be easier for the daughter to cut her hair and put on a different outfit than for My Son The Doctor to walk away from that role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help thinking that there&#8217;s a major difference between &#8220;I want to look young and conventionally pretty&#8221; (which is a separate constellation of issues) or even &#8220;I want to look like $celebrity&#8221; and a woman making herself look like her daughter. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that her daughter is enthusiastically supportive, but it&#8217;s also possible that she&#8217;s feeling pressured not to object, or not to make those objections about herself and her identity rather than her worry about her mother&#8217;s safety during surgery. Twenty-nine is old enough that yes, she can make her own choices too, but the &#8220;guess how old we are&#8221; thing seems a little too much like using her daughter as a prop for herself. There&#8217;s nothing new in parents doing that, I know; maybe it&#8217;s the physicality of this one that&#8217;s the difference. Though it might be easier for the daughter to cut her hair and put on a different outfit than for My Son The Doctor to walk away from that role.</p>
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